My guild doesn’t really like to fish. It’s boring, they say.
But we gotta do it for that awesome cool fish feast you get from the guild achievement That’s a Lot of Bait. We have 4.3k! Almost halfway, guys! And in the meantime, our raid leadership has decided that 60 stat foods are not enough for raiding and we need to bring our own 90 stat foods.
Most of which come from fishing.
Even worse, some of the important ones — Deepsea Sagefish, e.g. — don’t actually have pools.
Cue the QQ. Here’s my RR response…
Y’know all those philosophy posts I never got around to… Well, I just kept thinking. And I might have lost the list of them… <.< >.> But this past week has provoked some thoughts. So I will continue in my uber-length fashion as always…
I’m concentrating on a few warlockery things, because I want to try out some demonology a little. So my bookmark bar (yeah, I put up currently reading pages up there) has some intro to demo articles on it. We’ll see how it goes later. I’m also trying to lurk more on the warlock section of EJ and lurking on the WoW Warlock forums. Not that you can really tell if I lurk more, but I need to read them some more.
<Single Abstract Noun> has been going around the blogosphere a little. I decided to be obvious and roll a human warlock named Poneria on Argent Dawn-US to join up with my States-side bloggin’ brethern. Of course, it’s not exclusive to bloggers, anyone is allowed in, but there’s a ton of bloggers already there. I log on sometimes to hit level 5 things but mostly to percolate.
Seriously, I’ll be out of ideas to blog, I’ll log onto AD, and then *poof* ideas, they come. If I’m AFK on AD, you can always whisper me or Twitter me, and the sound of either of those will get my attention.
The Elder Blogging Event has concluded, and you can check out Khi’s list of Elders to read them all. The event got linked on WoW.com, which was awesome. :) My top five in no particular order (there’s 17, go read them all!):
- Psynister linking his own posts and various other blogs as gifts. Clever…
- Cynwise gives some zen advice for newbie PvPers. I need this for my baby priest (she’s 40! halfway there!) because I’m a firecracker when confronted with dying and/or stupidity.
- Zahia’s Grid guide. Though I prefer TBJ, any addon guide that’s thorough is good in my book.
- Ophelie’s tips for PuGging dungeons. Bonus tip: if you are the last to leave group, sometimes the teleport in/out option isn’t there anymore and you have to hearth. Sometimes it is, but half the time, it isn’t. Maybe sometimes I actually beat out the other person to leaving? Bonus bonus tip: if you leave the instance via the door portal, it pops you back where you were as if you had used the teleport option.
- Gazimoff’s mage roleplaying. That post and reading up on WoW lore makes me want to take a day and just go over warlock-specific lore. That post and reading Too Many Annas makes me want to learn to & actually RP some day on a WoW server.
Good news, everyone! Conspiracy downed Putricide 25. The 10man I was in this week also managed to down two-heal one-shot Putricide, and got a couple of tries in on Dreamwalker after we killed Blood Queen. Wootah!
Nibuca did a State of the UI. I’ve been wanting to do one myself, but I’m moving it around, playing with it, plus I still get crap every once in a while for still WASDing. I tried mouse-moving once, and …I move the camera too much normally, so I kept autorunning in The Bad. =/
If you want to prettify your DBM bars, check this out. Personally, the big red or orange bars stick out in my face, so I’m afraid that prettifying them will lead me to not pay attention as often. But I like this post because it gives you an inside look of the addon folder if you’ve ever wondered how you can mix & match with not just whole addons but addon parts as well.
I’m still getting into the flow of raiding with Conspiracy. Putricide is oodles of fun now, I think, even when we wipe, I feel like I’m having fun. It’s even in the <35% DPS like your life depends on it because your life does, in fact, depend on it. Dreamwalker is more frustrating than I’d want, and I feel like I never really got to struggle much on things like Deathwhisper, Saurfang, or Rotface. Y’know, the bosses I heard so much about, then read up on so many times, only to go with Conspiracy and one-shot them all? Yeah…I get excited when I get to kite on Saurfang.
That hot topic about blogging about your guild. I like being honest. For one, it’s less stressful than to keep up what you should and should not know. For two, I don’t get into icky situations about being passive aggressive or two-faced. For three, you can be as honest back to me, so it forces me to grow a thick skin and a spine at the same time. In fact, one of my first posts concerned guildmates and a situation that made me uneasy. However, I never told them I had a blog until I left, and I don’t think any of them read it.
Now that I’m in Conspiracy, well…they know I have one, Lissanna told them when I applied. At first I thought it was okay because it would explain my novel length of an application. But now..I don’t know. I’m still a probie, so I’m still nervous half the time that I’m going to mess up whether being stupid about my class or not knowing an encounter or not being prepared or standing in The Bad or not doing enough dps for my gear or being unable to keep that @%#$ing Kinetic Bomb up that’s across the room from me but still on *my* side…lots of worrying, but trying to remain calm and constructive and willing to get better when I do actually mess up.
By the way…Flow is a domain now. Update your RSS feed, too, so you’re not like me wondering why the hell Flow is double-posting every day. <.< >.>
Honestly, no matter the class, I like looking at other people’s UIs. Probably because sometimes it sparks an idea I never thought of, or maybe I’ve been looking for an addon to do this one thing and there it is, or maybe I have this one addon, but here’s a better one, etc. I love addons and UIs.
Miss Medicina’s big healing post that sparked some debate. I want to write my opinion about logiccrafting healing, but I feel like my opinion would be very weak and one-sided, since I’ve only ever played a tree (my shammy is still 52 or something), and I’ve only ever really raid-healed in bulk. I’ve tank-healed a few times, but I was normally chosen by HPS not by spec or anything, so I don’t feel justified as an authority on tank healing anyway. Heck, I don’t really feel justified as an authority on warlocks, even though I’ve been playing one since I started WoW.
Matticus’s cross-training post reminded me of the Robes. This is honestly how we operated — we took whoever signed up for the raid, so long as we had a good ratio of tanks, healers, and dps, and went with it. Like Pocahontas, I never stepped in the same raid twice. It’s the thing most different and difficult about Conspiracy to me, honestly. Being able to get over hitting CoE when I’m DPSing next to Lissanna, since I’m so used to provided that debuff. Being able to not freak out about having only 339 hit rating because there’s always a draenei (I’m 3 +hit short, I know) and most often a boomkin or a spriest (could get away with 289!) in my raiding group.
The fresh perspectives part particularly speaks to me. Story time? Story time. Onyxia 10, pug raid. They didn’t really explain the fight before just pulling it. Apparently I was SUCH A N00B for going in the wrong corner during phase 3 and thus being feared into the whelps.
There are 4 “corners” to pick from (6 if you want to count the groups that did it in the entrance or in the back where P1 usually happens, or ∞ if you want to count the groups that did it wherever she landed), and I swear every PuG Onyxia raid picked a different one. It’s another reason I’m nervous in Conspiracy: I’ve watched the Tankspot videos, yeah, but I have no clue how you guys particularly do it. So I’m going to pretend I haven’t seen it anyway so you can explain it to me. Plus, it’s a refresher from what I read, right?
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Now, I know guild hopping is generally frowned upon … but when is it guild-hopping and when is it just natural movement? – Tamarind
The Scarlet Robes were my first home. I grew up there, meaning I leveled my first toon there. Really, it does feel like growing up. Y’know, when you think climbing on top of the monkey bars was SO BADASS when you were eight, and then you come back when you’re eighteen and you realize everything is shoulder-height or shorter.
Once I got comfortable and felt like one of the Robes, I started to see drama. I probably created drama at some point, I don’t know. Maybe I was one of those “nice” teenagers.
But when TSR self-wounded, I sat there trying to justify why I was transferring off to Elune. To the Robes, but more importantly to myself. I hated the abrupt leaving that so many did. I didn’t want to just pour some more salt in an already badly wounded guild.
As I started to get comfortable in Conspiracy but also still visiting ol’ Eonar, it hit me while thinking of spring break.
<Conspiracy> is like college. I like the people there and I like being there, but it’s kind of like college in that most of my friends are also in one of my majors. Or at least in my classes. Or maybe friends of friends. I like the peeps in Conspiracy because I like to raid, and so do they. We raid. I got recruited there, but it’s still a big pond of people I don’t know.
<The Scarlet Robes> is still home, though. I go back there and log on, and I still get “Hey Meg” as opposed to “Hi Pon” or “Hey Poner(y/i)a.” I can still remember old times, and it feels like…home. Really that’s the only word that I can describe TSR with. Home.
So…Tam’s question. How can you tell whether your wanting to change guilds is guild-hopping or natural movement?
Is typing /gquit emotional or even painful to you? If it isn’t, you’re guild-hopping.
This is only my opinion, of course. I could be just naive to the world and spouting off horse manure.
But guild-hopping is generally the ends justifies the means. I.e., you really don’t care that you’re in this particular guild. You’re in this guild to get better gear or to get attention and praises or whatever it is you are hopping for. So the /gquit for a guild-hopper is just another chat command advancing the ultimate goal.
For the rest of us, no matter whether we’re joining a guild for social solidarity or raiding, you join it for the community that is verbally abbreviated between the angle brackets.
I’m not going to sit here and define what types of “community” a guild can be. That’s unique and personal, I think, so I’d be sitting here all day trying to cover it all. But it’s definitely a community, the togetherness of the world. And like in the “real world,” there’s different circles of friends, you lose some friends, you gain some friends.
Particularly I remember a line from my favorite show, “Bones.” Season 3, Episode 11, “Player Under Pressure,” if you want to know. Here, I’ll quote it for you.
Bones: Even Cutler knew you were lying when you said you treated women like that under the bleachers.
Booth: Oh and you believed him?
Bones: Yes! Because you still remember that first girl’s name…*she finishes her shake* Let’s go.
So the point? Bad memories, good memories, okayish memories, whatever…if you still remember the guild after you left, and not for the reasons of leaving or joining, it’s natural incompatibilty, possibly fixable possibly not, that was the reason you moved on.
Forgetting what the reason for leaving was is a better indication.
It’s all I really want if you’re going to leave.
I don’t care if you’re leaving because you want to raid or somebody threatened you, but don’t you dare say you still love me and then just leave with a stupid obligatory goodbye forum post or one-liner in-game.
I don’t really know what the problem was that started the schism or what brought it about. Thrax, the guy that called me a n00b the first time I saw Shatt on a friend’s computer screen in Chem lecture, was demanding some communication about the ICC25 raids and why he wasn’t invited. He’s a dick half the time but he’s a competent raider, at least, I always thought. He’s a dick, but I can ignore him, mainly because I know half the time it’s because he’s angry or he doesn’t mean it.
It’s like crude jokes in-game or with my guy friends. I let them pull sexual innuendos out of everything I say and I go back and forth with them on it, but only because I know they don’t actually mean anything by it. They would never actually hit on me or treat me dirty. The same with Thrax. I don’t really know, but I feel like despite his ability to be a complete asshole I felt like he would never actually go through with a lot of things.
Other people didn’t think so, I guess. Whatever, people got pissy in the forums, Thrax said somebody threatened him in private, so he did it in public, in the thread.
Did I ever mention I was on the young end of the guild? Yeah, Thrax is 30-something, he acted like he was 3. Other people involved are as old or older than him, they acted like they were 3.
I thought it was going to be another drama llama and then we’d all just laugh about it 2 weeks later in some Naxx alt raid for kicks.
Every day I log on, my loading screen takes forever. Probably because I have so many addons. But I go visit the guild forums every day during that loading screen or when I just wake up. Every day. It’s often the first site I go to every day. I mean, Google is my homepage, but before I hit up Twitter, before I hit up Facebook, before I open Thunderbird, before I go to Blackboard to find out I forgot to do X Homework…every day the first thing I do on the internet is TSR.
So I pull up the forums and there it is. Cat-fight. Omfg, wtf, geezus guys, I log on expecting to go wtf? and get a oh, it’s just drama again, /angry, words, /sigh, okay I still love you guys, what was I thinking, lolwut.
I got “Ed has promoted Rob to be the new Guild Master.” [G][-Ed-]: I’ll see you guys on the forums. Ed has left the guild.”
WHAT THE GODDAMN SHITTIN FUCK.
This is ED. ED! Mr. Cool. Complete one-fucking-eighty for him to leave, in my mind. I swear, the amount of shit he put up with in raids and Vent and guild and he still kept a cool head. Only after raiding with him for a long time could I begin to tell when he was getting frustrated. Actually, it was only after I took a stab at raid leading. He was Mr. Cool, my role model for keeping a level head while dealing with drama in the game.
And he fucking left. Supposedly due to Thrax, who is known for his asshattery. I say supposedly because it really doesn’t feel like it was just because of Thrax.
For the rest of the day I got to watch as forum and in-game /gquits commenced. I didn’t want to log off or afk in fear that I would miss saying goodbye to someone. Not that they really said goodbye. Steve, Mary, Ed, Sean, Dave, Daniel…all gone. They all have five bazillion alts, too. Do you know what that looks like?
Once, Kel-Greg got hacked. Kel has like five bazillion alts, mainly because he’s been around since TSR was born, I swear, so half of them are almost bank-alts reborn. The day he got hacked we were waiting around for a healer or something to finish out a raid, and boom, he logs on. Hey! Kel! Come heal for us! etc.
But he never answers. Switches toons even. Kel? Kel, man, come on, come heal for us. No answers.
The sleezeball logged on and off Kel’s various alts for about two hours, selling off his stuff and mail the gold to somewhere else.
And we got to watch. And couldn’t do anything about it except watch and take screenshots hoping Blizz would give Kel his stuff back. Though, I’ve never been raped personally, after watching someone be hacked in WoW, it’s the closest I can get to feeling like I just watched someone get raped.
When half your guild leaves, and they remove all their alts, you get to watch. Helpless. You can’t do squat. They keep telling you it’s not your fault, but, omg, it totally feels like it.
As they quit the guild, they keep telling you they still love you.
The day/night before this, I had been engaged and listening to the Twisted Nether Blogcast with Miss Medicina guesting. I took notes and figured I’d do sort of my commentary on her interview. One of the questions asked was what was your Greatest WoW Achievement ever. Hers was putting together a successful ICC 10man that raids two hours a week (in the same night) and is up to Festergut.
Yeah that’s pretty awesome.
My Greatest WoW Achievement ever was getting my Dreadsteed of Xoroth.
Why? I got it done when it was still a quest. I solo’d my way “growing up” in WoW. Aside from sharing green text with TSR, I didn’t really feel part of TSR, just kind of Tig’s RL friend who happened to joined and could read about adventures in Kara. I knew the dreadsteed quest involved a crapton of mats, only some of which came from my professions of tailoring and enchanting. It also involved a few dungeons, including the culminating step.
I needed people. So I asked on the guild forums for help. Small, shy, I know you might point me toward the mats, but I’ll need to get them myself. I might have to badger people into going to get the dungeons done, because, pfttt, who does Dire Maul anymore?
Within a couple of days, my guild practically dropped everything I needed for the quest in my lap. No questions asked. Although you HAVE to complete the quests for the ritual items, we used Roliat’s old items. I think we even did the pally charger quest at some point during the dungeoning.
I still remember riding on my felsteed up through the Burning Steppes on my way to complete the final final final step. Y’know, the Alliance flightpoint is down in the southeast corner of the map, and the warlock dude is way way way up in the northwest corner, and no, you can’t just fly like the crow riding over there. It was epic. I felt epic. And then I handed it in. And had plenty of laughs involving as many sexual innuendos as possible involving fire, reins, steed, thrusting, etc. with Thrax in guild chat.
When I feel down in Wrath of the Lich King, one of the ways I still cheer myself up is to look up my Dreadsteed of Xoroth Feat of Strength achievement.
My guild helped me get it. My. Guild. My. My guild.
My Greatest WoW Achievement EVAR was the day I felt like a Robe and a Warlock at the same damn time. Chest pieces are pretty, but I wear my tabard with pride, and talbuks are pretty, but my Dreadsteed is the one on my mount macro.
My tabard is my WoW blanky.
I started WoW because of a Robe RL friend. I was born in the Robes. I’ve grown up in the Robes. I matured in the Robes, as a Robe.
It’s so old and stained and patched up. There are tears in it, laughing ones and sad ones. I’ve sneezed on it. I’ve wiped blood off my felpuppy’s cheeks with it. I’ve held it over my head when it rained AGAIN in Duskwood. I’ve used it as a fan while grinding Cenarion Circle rep in Silithus. I wore it when I dinged 70, I wore it when I dinged 80. I criticized gear appearance because it made my tabard look bad.
I wear a Red Linen Shirt ever since I’ve been able to make Red Linen Shirts, because isn’t that what a proper Scarlet Robe should wear under her tabard?
Y’know when you ding the real life 16 or 17 or 18 or 31 and your parents tell you it’s time to throw that old thing away? And you totally can’t. At first you totally can’t because it’s your BLANKY, enough said. Why can’t they get that. And then it’s because you KNOW it’s old, its time is gone, and you SHOULD just throw it away or donate it or whatever…but you can’t. Because it’s a part of you.
My tabard is a part of me, goddamnit.
And yet, I realize maybe I should put it away. I want to raid and see some content. The people who are left in the Robes, well, they’re awesome people, and yeah, we could raid, but the majority just don’t. Some of them, Patrick & Leah, were top-end, yes. Some others, not so much. It wasn’t that they didn’t try, but it just wasn’t the right attitude.
So part of me wants to go, because it realizes I might not be happy here.
Might not. Well, it took me a while to figure out that raiding is not the actual end-game. Not to me, anyway. My guild is the end-game. Playing with people I care about, even though I’ve never met them beyond their online avatars. Right now, my end-game feels scattered to the winds. There, but not all together.
But my tabard is still my blanky. I still have memories of the Scarlet Robes, some of them with the people who left and some still with the people still tagger <The Scarlet Robes>. I don’t want to leave. I don’t want to say goodbye.
I can’t even phrase goodbye, right now. And I know how it hurt that people never really said goodbye, except in a forum post or one-liner before “___ left the guild.” I don’t want to hurt the friends still here. Because I would be saying I’m leaving and still loving them, but leaving doesn’t feel like loving at all.
I feel like a lost puppy. Originally I felt, to rephrase Leah, like a puppy in the middle of a divorce. Both sides saying, “C’mere, girl, c’mon!” and using me as proof the other sucked. And me, sitting, panting in the middle of the room, switching form looking at one to looking at the other, with that sad face on my face that says, “But, why can’t I have both? Why this now?”
Now that the one parent left, I don’t want to diss the parent I have left by saying you’re not good enough. Because you’re not. You’re amazing. But it doesn’t feel the same anymore, and I want that family bond back.
An old Robe comes back on the forums every once in a while, and as this all went on, he posted a little bit about What Are the Robes?. He said a friend of his, an ex-Robe of long past, had been through 14 guilds since. Fourteen. And not once has he encountered a bond in a guild as strong as The Scarlet Robes.
So, here’s one lost puppy, LF a Robe-strong WoW family. She likes to play catch in demonic portals, pick Lifeblooms, and Maul unsuspecting skeletons. She might go home with you, or she might stay with her Tattered Robes as they rebuild. She really doesn’t know what to do anymore.
Along with all the account security, what a lot of raiders and guilds think about is not just the hacked toon, but what might happen to the guild bank and/or guild.
We’ve had a string of officers hacked in the past, which meant the guild bank got trashed due to officer permissions. The restrictions are now down to 3 per tab per day, with the obvious exceptions of the food and free for all tabs. The stacks of things have also been decreased, so while it may look dumb to see 6 stacks of 3 Abyss, it’s so you can only grab 9 (3 slots of 3) instead of the whole 18, were they stacked like normal. This leads to less gbank space.
Also, we have guildies who want to contribute expensive and/or valuable items to the guild bank that other members can use, but they don’t want to expose these items to hackers, especially now that the care package offer is more mandatory.
Solutions? Well, we *could* require everyone to get an authenticator. And with the pet that comes (or leaves!) with one, it’s not hard to check. Unless you want to be checking ALL the time. Anyway, we trust people.
Part of the way around this is I think we’ve been utilizing communication and people’s professions. For example, one member of the guild sends me massive amounts of materials for flasks & elixirs, and massive amounts of mats to another guildy for potions, respective to our profession specialities. So the guild bank is some mix of actually decent stuff, the abyss crystals we get from raids, and the junk we all have but don’t want.
But then…my amazing guild leader came up with a brilliant solution.
People who make expensive & valuable things–enchants, epic gem cuts, leatherworking, whatever–can put in a voucher. First, you send to an alt a mail with the instructions on how to complete the voucher. When your alt receives the mail, click on the “make a permanent copy of this letter” icon. This creates an in-game object (virtual physical object?) of the letter, which your alt can go deposit in the correct guild bank tab. Whoever chooses the “Plain Letter” out of the bank can still read the instructions on the Letter, see who it was from, and then get their item. We tested this and confirmed you can put in a letter (it’s not soulbound) and someone else can read it.
The only flaw so far is the copy only gets named “Plain Letter.” So you’d have a bunch of Plain Letters, and restrictions on withdrawals might make it hard to pick on you want. But you could use this to an advantage: a hacker might not be able to get a really awesome item voucher if he’s limited to the 3 stacks and picks the wrong ones. If you get a smart hacker who actually reads the instructions and follows through, then it could possibly be worked around. But most of the hacking has happened in off-hours, so the hacker would have to either mail the item to his account (which nobody would recognize, and therefore not complete) or wait for the guildy to log on and send it to the hacked toon. Since officers regularly check the logs, I don’t think this would happen if we saw too much voucher-grabbing from a certain toon.
What do you suggest for others to keep a good guild bank safe?